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Proposed National Schedule
« Thread Started on Oct 25, 2009, 2:52pm »

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Connected to the earlier subject of club sanctioning of events is the new national schedule, which is available on the USFA site. A pretty good summary was posted on Fnet by "oiuyt", who is a coach at Temple. He said:

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There is a proposed calendar which would remove cadet, junior, division I, junior team, Y10, Y12, and Y14 events from Summer Nationals, reducing the tournament from ten to six days. It would retain veterans events, Div III, Div II, Div IA, and senior team.

Junior Olympics would be the National Championships tournament for cadets and juniors. It may become the National Championships tournament for junior team (team events are being run on a trial basis at JOs 2010).

The Division I National Championships and Division I Team National Championships would take place in late April, replacing the April NAC (Div I/Y10/Y12/Y14) that we currently have.

A Youth Festival will be run some time in June for Y10 and Y12 and as the National Championships in Y14. I believe it is anticipated that Y14 team events will also be included.

The proposal will be presented to the Board for a vote at the February meeting.

2010 Summer Nationals will have cadet, junior and youth events.

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and later added:

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Yes, the Division I National Championships will also take place at the 2010 Summer Nationals in Atlanta.

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I think this is a terrible idea. It cuts a Div I NAC, that's bad. It makes the Cadet season very short. It restricts opportunities for overturning the current Cadet points. This would likely have the effect of making the Cadet points pretty static, which would benefit the people at the current top of the Cadet list and their coaches, but hurt everyone else.

Cutting SN down and splitting it up would make the current family atmosphere a thing of the past. Right now SN is the only national level event many mid level fencers go to, it's the peak of the fencing season. This would end that. It's a bad idea.

You know, at least from my point of view. What do you think? If you think you don't know enough to have an opinion, trot over to Fnet and look at the forums there, there's pages and pages of it.

K O'N

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Re: Proposed National Schedule
« Reply #1 on Oct 27, 2009, 6:27pm »

That does seem to make for an unnecessarily brief cadet season.

My last summer nationals was 2002, so I've been away for awhile. Still, even out here in the boonies I can tell the USFA continues to grow.

Personally, I love the "fencing convention" atmosphere, but I can see where the strain on the USFA's resources (especially manpower) must be enormous.

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Re: Proposed National Schedule
« Reply #2 on Oct 28, 2009, 12:08pm »

If I was a teen fencer I would hate it. When I was younger I fenced cadet, junior, Div II and III and made a week or so of it. It was great. It would make SN a ghost of its former self.

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Re: Proposed National Schedule
« Reply #3 on Oct 29, 2009, 7:56am »

As to Summer Nationals and moving championships in some categories to other dates/events...

While the current summer national championships may be a grand festival of fencing for the actual fencers, logistically, it must be one heck of an undertaking for ten solid days.

My sense of what has come down from the USFA with this proposal is that summer nationals has reached the point where attendance as it now stands is too great a strain on the resources available.

In terms of membership (some percentage of which fences at nationals), the USFA continues to grow.

I understand we lost some referee and armory manpower after some failures to receive pay a year or so back. The USFA is still trying to past our recent financial problems.

It may just be that the organization can no longer run an operation of the size summer nationals is becoming with the resources at hand.

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Re: Proposed National Schedule
« Reply #4 on Nov 4, 2009, 1:34pm »

The relevant contact info is here:

http://www.fencing.net/forums/thread45795.html#post830844

If you think the new schedule is a bad idea, let the USFA know.

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